Unidentified Man #22: We will develop policy specific to children. Mr. KUENNE: I vowed to collect every memory for you before they, MORRISON: As for Andrew's parents, David and Kate, they were, (Graduation photo of Andrew, Kate and David; Shirley with child). Unidentified Man #25: I love them very much. The psychotic bitch.) The bullets in Bagbys body were of the same type that Turner had used at a shooting range shortly before, in a gun she had recently purchased. They are prophecies. MORRISON: You're in turmoil at that point. I'm just looking for somebody to hang out with and have fun here in school.' Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) I do have a complaint, finally. How the fuck do you live like that? This couple have endured more grief and pain that most people will endure in a lifetime. MORRISON: Shirley also claimed to have been at home in Iowa, sick in bed the day of the murder. Senior Writer and Project Manager. I promise within the first five minutes you will be captured by it and you won't be able to tear yourself away. We don't--we don't gush very much. (Photo of David and Kate; airplane; lake and coast), MORRISON: But here's the thing. Why? Blu-Ray | DVD, BLU-RAY I kind of. MORRISON: Winter is capricious in Newfoundland; repeatedly, spring is briefly offered and then taken back again. The Bagbys still hold a bitterness when they talk about how they were failed by a legal system that let Turner out on bail and allowed her to retain custody of Zachary. We'll keep this website updated as to their progress when there is news. The Hornet was just back from patrolling . ', Mr. SIMPSON: And I told him, I said, `You know, Andrew, when I break up with somebody and put them on a plane and send them 1300 miles away,' I said, `They knock on my front door, I'm going out the back door and I'm calling the police.' Mr. SIMPSON: Things people should know about Andrew, he was never late. Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) Just got up. Said, `Oh, no, I really can't.'. You are born, you grow up, you make friends, you get a job, a partner, a house, maybe a car, maybe a kid, maybe more. December 15, 2009: If nothing else is accomplished with this film, it will absolutely attach you to the too-short life that was Andrew Bagby's, and you're going to be sad that you didn't get a chance to know him -- but glad all the same that you know ABOUT him now." How dreadful the knowledge of the truth can be, wrote Sophocles, when theres no help in truth.. Mr. BAGBY: Yes. For this night they were a couple once again, dancing and drinking together. This is where the foreshadowed bureaucracy comes back. We dont do anything related to murder anymore, he said. You take it with you, but you move on, said David. MORRISON: Two weeks after Andrew's murder, cell phone records, would show that Shirley Turner drove all the way from Iowa to Andrew's, neighborhood in Pennsylvania, arrived there the day of the murder, and then, she, or at least her cell phone, returned to Iowa. . I would have to dream up some reason to go over, there in the middle of the night, to--for me to just appear on her doorstep, Mr. BAGBY: Turned out I wasn't. The bill now moves to the Senate where it is expected to be embraced in a similar fashion. On Nov. 5, Kate, who is originally from England, pictures Turner sitting on top of a Guy Fawkes bonfire and her family all around it with fireworks. Man #26: and for having the strength to make it through, Unidentified Man #27: With what you've been through, to still be, carrying on, still to hold your heads up and keep going and pushing forward is, (Kate and David; photo of David and Kate), Unidentified Woman #13: I think God put some people down on Earth, Mr. A. BAGBY: (Wedding video) We're brothers, and I love you. Our SaltWire team is always watching out for the place we call home. Because this is foreshadowing. SCREAMS. Mr. KURT KUENNE (Director): I decided to go on the road to interview people, because I thought, you know, he's never going to have a wedding. HOUSE OF COMMONS UNANIMOUSLY PASSES BILL C-464. MORRISON: But then she claimed she couldn't find it. (Newfoundland; Shears driving; photo of Shirley and Zachary; water at night; Mr. SHEARS: She said Zachary was being fussy and that just driving him, around would calm him down. They were somewhat successful with the passing of Bill C-464 in December 2010 with the added clause that bail could be denied if it was deemed necessary for the protection of anyone under the age of 18. I think they just poured all of their love and, MORRISON: A week after Kurt's visit, Zachary turned one. Creating stronger communities. I can say it like that because even without a trial, the evidence was so damning we might as well have been next to her when she carried out the crime. The night was. Authorities later determined his former lover Dr. Shirley Turner,. "One of the best documentaries I have ever seen in my entire life a film that will rock you to your core. quiet. Dear Zachary: A Letter to a Son About His Father (2008) 1 Video. Unidentified Man #21: (Talking in group) I know. There is a dark pull in watching the Bagby case travel to unanticipated depths, but there are no thrills. Based on the title alone, it sounds like one of those saccharine documentaries that only the filmmaker and the subject would ever really care about. Serious crime is rare in this country. I had a son I used, (Photo of young Kate; photo of Kate and David; photo of Kate and Andrew), KATE: And then suddenly you're in the pits, and then you have to learn that, MORRISON: Two weeks after Zachary's murder, the press covered a, Mr. BAGBY: (Press conference) We believe that the legal system helped her to, MORRISON: Charging the child protection authorities dropped the, ball, and that a disastrous bail system allowed a probable first-degree, (Zachary; court document; Shirley and Andrew). They could check cell towers then, but only manually. I had two sisters already, so a brother, because now I'd have somebody that I can teach about hockey and, (Shears and Zachary; photo of Shears and Zachary). Just from that, conversation, you could kind of get the sense that she didn't want Zachary, MORRISON: And for the Bagbys, Shirley issued what sounded somehow. Play trailer 2:39. It wasn't just to monitor the, extradition process. It comes down to probable cause, the right to bail and the presumption of innocence. Previously, Kate was a Founder & Executive Director at Read More Kate Bagby's Phone Number and Email Last Update 11/14/2022 10:26 AM Email k***@mothersagainstmurder.org Engage via Email Contact Number (***) ***-**** Engage via Phone Mobile Number David was a . This marks the first time in history an MP from Newfoundland has been able to get a private member's bill through Parliament; since 2001, 2,510 Private Member's Bills have been introduced in the House of Commons, but only 23 - less than 1% - have received Royal Assent. The bond between, Zachary and his grandparents grew and grew, and Shirley noticed, even from, KATE: (Audio recording) I think it was one time we were on the phone or, KATE: (Audio recording) Yeah, the baby cried, and I said, `Oh, there's my, Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) Yeah, `Oh, my baby. Mr. BAGBY: Oh, yeah. With that kind of goodness, there is no limit to the possibility of transcending all manner of evil. The Bagbys have done their best to resume life in California. I--we both did. I cannot stress this enough: this movie frightened and disturbed me more than any horror film I've ever seen in my life. The only thing about his life that didn't make sense to some friends and family was his relationship with that doctor from Newfoundland, the one he'd started dating when going to medical school there. Mr. SHEARS: I thought they were great with him. IMDbPro Starmeter. This film was no longer a letter to you, Unidentified Man #23: Well, everybody always says, well, what. MORRISON: Andrew's best friend, filmmaker Kurt Kuenne, suddenly, just knew what he had begun as a small film to memorialize his old friend. Shirley. KATE: So this man said to me, `Do you know that Shirley Turner's pregnant with your son's child? T.J. and his girlfriend went to bed. MP Andrews was inspired to create Bill C-464 after seeing Dear Zachary for the first time in March; he and Senator Tommy Banks distributed DVDs of Dear Zachary to every member of the House of Commons for their review immediately following the December 4th discussion. David Bagby David Russell Bagby, 64, of Statesville, passed away Wednesday, Jan. 5, 2022. How do you represent the fact that this 13-month-olds death was preventable? This is how Kuenne represents his emotion at hearing the news that the woman who killed his friend had also killed his friends son. Click HERE for ticket information. David bagby, left, and kate bagby, right, celebrate with their son andrew bagby at his graduation from medical school at memorial university of newfoundland in june 2000. contributed by david and kate bagby. Dear Zachary had its Canadian premiere at the Hot Docs International Documentary Film Festival in Toronto, where it was welcomed by a line down the street and around the block to get in. KATE: I had a great childhood. Had the case played out in the U.S. court system, they believe Zachary would still be with them. Which is to say, the woman who killed Dr. Andrew Bagby is pregnant with Dr. Andrew Bagbys baby. The committee passed the bill unanimously, which is how it came to be heard in the House for a final vote this week. Bill C-464 was introduced in the House of Commons on October 22, 2009, passed the House of Commons unanimously on March 22nd of this year and passed the Senate of Canada last Thursday, December 9th, where it was sponsored by Senator Tommy Banks of Alberta. Also foreshadowing is how long it takes Andrews parents, Kate and David, to wade through various levels of bureaucracy to confirm his death. See details above! In 2006, the press was there again to cover the issuance of a report on the death of, (Newspaper article; David on TV show being interviewed; Confederation, Unidentified Reporter: (Newscast) The government has received a scathing. (Shears; photo of Shirley, Zachary and Shears; Shears walking), Mr. SHEARS: Suddenly everything rushes into you, and you realize that she, did murder Andrew. We're thrilled with MP Andrews' initiative and efforts, and support him 100% as he moves this bill forward. Mommy loves you. They hadn't been identified, but it's obvious who they, MORRISON: He was right. But they also contribute to the feeling of watching something urgent and unmediated. I don't know how else to say it except they are grown-ups: they are funny, but serious; playful, but organized. KATE: On Sunday night I got out of bed and prayed because I thought Andrew was at risk. don't have these meltdowns and emotional scenes. MORRISON: It was almost two years after Andrew Bagby's murder, when Shirley Turner's eldest son T.J. drove home to his girlfriend after an. He laughs as he recalls images of Zachary running up and down a hall, saying that is a joy. Cpl. but if we don't get help, we don't know if we're doing what's best. Turner - the son of Andrew Bagby whom she gave birth to after Bagby's death. Mr. BAGBY: (Audio recording) You don't like this answer, but I'm going to, give it to you again. You will laugh, you will smile, you will cry, and you might even want to stand up and shout at the screen. . I dont understand how that can be ignored.. Mr. BAGBY: I think it was a rage at the person who did this. It would take two weeks. On Monday, March 22, 2010, the House of Commons in Ottawa unanimously passed Bill C-464 - An Act to Amend the Criminal Code (justification for detention in custody). She just dropped to the floor and laid down, and, I went down after her. But something kept me going, and. You will hurt and this film will sit with you for days, weeks, months. This is the first example in this story of someone seeing something bad coming but not being able to stop it. MORRISON: Was it reasonable for the court to trust her? Turner shot Bagby two days after he broke up with her at a Pennsylvania airport as she was set to fly back to Iowa. Dear Zachary was then voted the #3 audience favorite of the festival by viewer ballot, out of the 172 distinguished documentaries screening at Hot Docs. You know what, when Andrew didn't show up at 7:30, I knew something was very wrong. December 4, 2008: KATE: I thought, `Well, God, this is it.' Mr. BAGBY: We were out shopping or something. But how? While the police investigation was still underway, Turner, a Canadian citizen, packed off to St. Johns, Newfoundland. Ms. TURNER: (Audio recording) His parents don't even know, do they? Information on who and where to write can be found by going to the "Support Bail Reform" page. David and Kate Bagby channeled their grief & anguish into changing some Canadian laws. Kurt is incredibly grateful for the good folks at MSNBC for making this arrangement happen. MORRISON: After you found out about Andrew's death, the impulse just ended. And thus the decision from which all else followed. MORRISON: The ammunition used to kill Andrew was CCI .22 caliber bullets. granddad? A review of Turner's and Zachary's deaths, released in 2006 by Winnipeg-based coroner Peter Markesteyn, concluded the provinces social services system failed Zachary and his death could have been prevented. I knew, exactly what my son looked at before he died. Mr. SHEARS: Yeah, I guess it did at the time, but I still didn't have, MORRISON: How difficult must it have been to ingratiate, themselves with their son's suspected killer? I have to tell you that Andrew is dead. RELATED:California filmmaker remasters documentary on the lives and murders of Andrew Bagby and Zachary Turner. December 10, 2007: ), DEAR ZACHARY 10TH ANNIVERSARY HD REMASTERED EDITIONNOW AVAILABLE ON BLU-RAY, DVD, and DIGITAL, For the film's 10th anniversary, Kurt Kuenne remastered "Dear Zachary", its epilogue, and its bonus features for HD, converting the original standard definition elements to HD shot-by-shot, while remixing the film in 5.1 surround, so that it now looks and sounds as originally intended on today's platforms. Troutman Funeral Home is assisting the Bagby family. Mr. SHEARS: She's kind of reliving a university life again. As religious as that may sound, that is a comfort. And thank God. Mr. SHEARS: You could see in his eyes that he was full of life. MORRISON: Police got Shirley Turner on the phone back in Iowa. The Bagbys went to the morgue to identify their bodies. The album includes "Andrew", the 8 minute concert work Kurt wrote and recorded in Andrew's memory in 2002.
